Use Mindfulness to Recover From Depression | Being Well Podcast, Dr. Zindel Segal

On today’s episode of , Dr. Zindel Segal joins @Rick Hanson and I to talk about Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy (MBCT), an eight-week group therapy program designed to help those who suffer with chronic unhappiness and prevent relapse after episodes of severe clinical depression.

About our Guest: Dr. Segal is a Professor of at the University of Toronto at Scarborough, and one of the creators of MBCT. He specializes in mood disorders, particularly depression, and has had an enormous influence on the clinical adoption of mindfulness-based practices and their addition to more traditional forms of cognitive therapy.

Key Topics:
0:00 Introduction
1:50 Origins of MBCT
4:30 Why Segal prioritized studying mindfulness as an intervention to depression
7:20 Comparing MBCT with traditional
10:40 What about depression makes us more reactive to thoughts and feelings?
13:45 Mindfulness of sadness vs direct experience
19:20 MBCT practices explained
24:30 Three minute breathing space exercise
32:30 Attentional control training
35:20 Managing feelings of inadequacy
39:55 Motivation and implicit compassion
44:10 Ongoing practices after the MBCT course
46:50 Creating access to mindfulness resources
48:15 Recap

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